A Bigfoot Sighting

[vance winsor]

I had one guy post to my website that he saw a bigfoot. Thats good you saw something most of us wont ever see. But he had one thing he did not want us to do, and that was to, not go out to the road that he saw the bigfoot on and he did not want us to investigate his sighting. Let me tell you son, if you don't want bigfoot researchers to investigate your sighting then don't tell us you had a sighting. We have a right to investigate your sighting. We have to prove that you are telling us the truth or are making a hoax report. Because the guy did not want us to investigate his sighting I won't give him room on my website for this sighting. I'm sorry guy I don't know you from Adam and I'm not going to take your word for it that you saw a bigfoot. Too many people say they have seen a bigfoot and lied about seeing one. They just want us investigators to take their word of it that they saw something. That is why we are INVESTIGATORS cause we invesigate these things. We have to prove what the people say what they saw. Or are they liers, are you lying about your bigfoot sighting just to keep people out of the area. Are you trying to keep people out of the area for a reason. I won't investigate your sighting now even if you agreed to let me. The way you treated me and my organization makes us to turn our noses up at your sighting. When you make a reported sighting of things to the state police do you tell them 'I will tell you something but you can't investigate it. I don't think so, so next time you see a bigfoot don't tell any organization about your sighting cause they will want to invesitgae it. They are not going to take your word that you saw a bigfoot.

Vance

[SeanForkerasGuest]

my weyour worm poopite Vance was does that mean? I have seen it in a number of your posts. Just wanna know if its a glitch or something. Not trying to be offensive, just curious.

-Sean

[Vance Winsor]

Hi Sean: Its a glitch. It a problem with windows xp that plagues my computer. Dont know what causes the problem. I was told its a microsoft office problem. Dont know. Til Later

Vance

[SeanForkerasGuest]

Thanks for clearing that up vance. I wondered if it was a forum glitch or something.

[LighthouseLady92]

Vance,
I do not want to be grouped with the "witness" in the first post, but I'm thinking you'd be interested in this info. Growing up my parents, sister and I had a camp right below Newmansville, Pa. We no longer own this camp, but we do use the Corp of Engineers campgrounds at Kelletville. Pa, almost every weekend and for two weeks in the summer. I practically spent my summers, every year since 1975, in these areas which include all along Tionesta Creek and such. There are a lot of wierd and unexplained things I have heard in the woods below Newmansville. The camp was located about three miles below Newmansville, back towards Leeper, on a private lane with numerous camps and houses. The potato farm which is located on I believe rt 36 was at the end of our lane, the backs of their fields that is. We would sit out at night around the fire and just spend time together as a family. Many nights in the years spent there we would hear loud crashing in the woods behind camp and grunting noises. I was always told it was bears, but yet had NEVER seen a bear anywhere near camp. I have to add that I'm 31 and only have only seen three black bears in all these years and they were all along Tionesta Creek. There was also far off screaming noises which I was always told were raccoons, but have never heard a racoon scream like that. It sounded like a cross between a woman and an animal screaming. You could always hear large animals walking around the camp at night, but by morning there was never any evidence that anything had been there. I was very curious as a child and scared of these things, they may be nothing just scary childhood memories, but I don't believe so. I always have the feeling something is off when walking in the woods even now and I only get that wierd feeling when in these areas. I have been to alot of different forests and hiked many trails only to have the feeling of not being alone in the Allegheny National Forest? There were two different incidences along Tionesta Creek, one was at the campground at Kelletville and the other on the creek itself. The first was when I was 20 and had my 1 month old son with us camping. We were tent camping and it was about 3 am. I was awakened by my son crying and was feeding him when it all started. The first thing I noticed was the smell it was nasty like skunk and rotten eggs all wrapped into one, the tree frogs were all quiet and there was no noise. Then I heard a single grunt from what I believe was maybe 10 yards behind the tent. By this time I wanted to cry and it got worse. Whatever was beyond the tent was moving towards us and I also heard branches breaking. About this time I had neglected to get my sons bottle in the correct position and he started screaming. Whatever was there left in the same direction it had come and was gone, the smell however lingered for a while. The tree frogs started back up and I never heard anything the rest of the night, believe me there was no more sleeping on my end! The next day I went into the woods behind the tent and there was a huge path tramped through the weeds, no prints I could see just mashed down grass and weeds along with alot of broken twigs and such on the ground. There was also a broken tree branch about 6 foot up and I thought nothing of it at the time. The second incident happened on the creek itself I was fishing and spotted something coming through the weeds, which were about 6 feet high on the banks. All I saw were the weeds moving as if a large man was coming through them down to the creek. This was on the opposite side of the creek from me where there are no camps or access to the creek, all forested. Then the same smell as I had smelled the night at the campgrounds, seven years earlier, appeared. I yelled at the top of my lungs to my oldest daughter, who was 9 at the time to look up at the bank of the creek, and pointed to where. We never saw what was there and it retreated back through the weeds. A few minutes later the smell also disappeared. I don't know if these things events are related to Bigfoot or not I just thought you'd like to know about them. I can tell or show you exactly where these incidents took place and I know that along Tionesta Creek isn't in Clarion County, but if these creatures travel like bears then they probably belong to the same group of creatures from your county. Please feel free to email me if you want to get more info on this.

[vance winsor]

HI lighthouselady92:

I wont put you in the same grouping with the other guy. I believe someone made fun of his sighting and that is why he gave me such a hard time and would not really answer any questions I had for him. You can contact the pa bigfoot society and tell them about your camping experience. they probably have a investagator in the area and would check it out for you. The director of the pa bigfoot society is a cool guy and would not make fun of you and what you went through. Contact the society at www.pabigfootsociety.com and make a report through their website. I will try to contact you soon. I believe bigfoot is nomadic and travels but does not stay in one area very long. the information you left on the website indicates it could have been a bigfoot, especially with the smells. I took down the reporting of bigfoot stuff on my website cause of the guy. You can take a look at it at www.geocities.com/ozmtmall I have to find the frontpage webpage maker I have and make it useable again for reporting.

til later

vance

[LighthouseLady92]

Posted with Pa Bigfoot Society months ago and never heard from them email or otherwise??? Who knows.

[greywolf]

Michelle:What county was it in and when did you report it. Let me know via e-mail if you wish [e-mail]. sorry not sure were your location is ..please advise

[LighthouseLady92]

Hey Greywolf,
The occurance below Newmansville was in I believe Clarion County. The other two were in Forest County along Tionesta Creek. If you want directions email me. [e-mail].

[greywolf]

I did a bunch of covered bridge photography out that way back in the earley 90's and as you know most coveredcbridges are off the normal roadways..I will e-mail you even though I am in carbon cty now I will follow up and see what was done and if there was an investigation. Vance is the one location near you? AND how have you been we have not chatted in a while.?

[LighthouseLady92]

Greywolf and all members,
I'm in Pittsburgh, Pa now but will be in the area of Kelletville, Pa Forest County from 6-14-06 till 6-23-06. We will be camping at the US Army Corps of engineers campground at Kelletville. If you'd like to come and camp and are interested in seeing these places firsthand let me know?? My kids and I are planning to hike the rails to trail along the creek at least one or two days while we are there to see what we can find, if anything. I have to mention that the trails are officially closed, but what the heck.

[greywolf]

I sent the above info to Eric. Why are the trails closed? perhaps there is something the Govt. does not want the public to see.........(ie) BF

[LighthouseLady92]

The trails are closed due to heavy storm damage on the lower end of the creek. Tionesta Lake along with the Kinzua Reservoir is used for flood control for the city of Pittsburgh. They flooded the lake a few years back and there are downed trees and such on the trails. We could only wish it was because of Bigfoot!! :-}

[greywolf]

Vacationed there in Allegheny Nat.Forest many years ago..that is a big impoundment..had a 12 foot boat at the time and when out there you felt like you were the bait.....lol I also photographed the kinzua viaduct rail bridge at that time whish was long before it went down.

[LighthouseLady92]

The Kinzua is huge and I can see how in a 12 foot boat you'd feel like bait!!! We camp in the Allegheny National Forest at Kelletville which is located on rt. 666 past Tionesta. It is a primitive dry camping area and gets a lot of visitors during the local rodeo. When there isn't a rodeo you can go two days without seeing other people along the creek. The viaduct rail bridge got knocked over by a tornado about 3 or 4 years ago. It was a sight to see.. Till Later.

[greywolf]

I saw on the ch 16 news today that the one span of the Twin Bridges at forks pa. was lst in the flood.. that creek had to be a raiging torrent . The span wasjust torn apart...it was a beautiful bridge and one of only a few twin's in existance.

[LighthouseLady92]

Sad to hear. The Twin Bridges in Forks, Pa. were the only twin bridges in the US. I was there once and they were neat to see and walk across. I could only imagine the flood waters ripping the span apart. Glad I wasn't stuck in it. Did you and your family fair ok in the flooding. I hope so. Talk to you later.

[greywolf]

All of my family are high and dry..wet yards and basemets but no damage done and all safe..

[LighthouseLady92]

Good to hear that your all OK.

[greywolf]

Michell: how was your camping trip and what did you find..........greywolf

[LighthouseLady92]

Greywolf,
Didn't find out to much and camping was so so. The creek was flooded when we got there and flooded even worse before I left. Between the limited access to almost every spot along the creek and the d*mn mosquitos it could've been alot better. Going up there in a few weeks and trying again. I let you know if I find anything!

[LighthouseLady92]

Hi Everyone,
I'm posting this here because is sorta has something to do with my encounters. BFRO has a report from Guitonville, Pa. as the nearest town. Report # 6836. The encounter was screaming coming from a tree line. Tried to contact BFRO for more info three times and I am being ignored....

www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=6836

The distance between this report and my experience is approximatley 15 miles. To get between these places you have to take a dirt road with the only civilization being gas wells which do not have personal supervision. Very heavily forested, water sources, spring and creek, minimal impact and hunting season sees the most people. The dates of these two encounters are 15 years apart and 15 miles, thought that was neat..... Anyway the other encounter had happened along Tionesta creek and as the crow flies pretty close to the other two encounters!! Wierd? Maybe Bigfoot was wondering around this area??? I have maps and pics of these places and if your interested in seeing them email me and I'll send them to you... I can't figure out how to post pics yet... Anyway I just thought this was cool that different encounters over different years in the same areas. Pretty Cool.
Till Later, Michelle

[greywolf]

Well Michell i'm told that BFRO is more full of them selves that to provide info to others..But that said I would say something is in residence in the area..would like to see the pictures..I don't know how to put them in the forum but they can be sent as e-mail attachments. Greywolf

[LighthouseLady92]

Greywolf,
You don't have to tell me about the BFRO, I'm living it!!!LOL. Anyway I emailed you the maps and pics. Have a good one...
Michelle

[LighthouseLady92]

I guess I should post this here...... While camping I had a strange discussion with a woman, in the bathroom of all places, and it went something like this. The woman identified herself only as Angie and her hubby didn't want to talk about it. While Angie and her husband were hiking the North Country Trail, between Marienville, Pa and Kellettville, Pa they had something strange happen two nights in a row. The first night they were awakened by something walking outside of their tent, she said it sounded like a man walking around the campsite. The second night, at a different location about 12 miles away, they heard screaming coming from the ridge opposite of where they had set up camp. She said it sounded like a woman being throttled, it lasted a few minutes and was over. When I spoke to her she said they originally had planned to hike through to Clarion, but someone had picked them up later that day. I gave her my cell# and told her to call if she needed to talk or if she remembered anything else. I have yet to hear from her and don't expect to. She did not look well, like she had seen a ghost, when I spoke to her. The screaming could of been a mountian lion, which the state says are not in the area??? The previous camping trip we found ML tracks in the sand. The area along the NCT is not populated and the only other people they would of encountered would of been other hikers??? I did tell her who I was and about the BF reports from the area, then she looked really scared, two hours later someone in a SUV picked them up...... Any developements and I will surely post to keep everyone updated, but don't hold your breath.

Michelle